http://serc.carleton.edu/NAGTWorkshops/games/workshop08/knox.html#discussion http://serc.carleton.edu/NAGTWorkshops/games/workshop08/knox.html#post2430 You are doing lots! So what can you say when you compare these various approaches about what different kinds of simulations/games on different scales are good for. I've always thought that the applets build intuition that helps students put some of their real world experience to use in making sense of behavior and its mathematical descriptions -- is that what is going on? How do these kinds of approaches interplay with their ability to be better forecasters?

I think you are in a good position to help us start the list of what's going on where. What would be an easy way to capture what you know here.

Cathy]]> Cathy Manduca 1208876280 http://serc.carleton.edu/NAGTWorkshops/games/workshop08/knox.html#post2430 http://serc.carleton.edu/NAGTWorkshops/games/workshop08/knox.html#post2442
The applets are cool! I don't know if you have seen this article but I think it is applicable to your stuff:

Cliburn, D. C. and Miller, S. M. 2008. What makes a "good" game programming assignment?. J. Comput. Small Coll. 23, 4 (Apr. 2008), 201-207.

I think you (like Steve Reynolds) turn simulators into games. This paper discusses student views of "game assignments" and basically concludes that they like a lot of structure and like to be already familiar with the "game". How much prep do your students have before using the tornado simulator for instance?
]]> Mike Kelly 1208879040 http://serc.carleton.edu/NAGTWorkshops/games/workshop08/knox.html#post2442 http://serc.carleton.edu/NAGTWorkshops/games/workshop08/knox.html#post2453
I am impressed with the way you are adapting things to teach some basic skills. Good idea !
Sam]]> Sam Swanson 1208880060 http://serc.carleton.edu/NAGTWorkshops/games/workshop08/knox.html#post2453 http://serc.carleton.edu/NAGTWorkshops/games/workshop08/knox.html#post2469
Am wondering with the applets if they are mapped, overlain on real systems> What does ot take for students to leap from the colored diagrams to real systems?

I am not worried about pedagogy being subsumed by games. Weather and climate change are all very relevant important things to people, and we need to tap into the concerns, interests.]]> Alan Levine 1208882460 http://serc.carleton.edu/NAGTWorkshops/games/workshop08/knox.html#post2469