http://serc.carleton.edu/earthandmind/posts/darwindipstrike.html#discussion http://serc.carleton.edu/earthandmind/posts/darwindipstrike.html#post3573 Dave Mogk 1253545740 http://serc.carleton.edu/earthandmind/posts/darwindipstrike.html#post3573 http://serc.carleton.edu/earthandmind/posts/darwindipstrike.html#post3574 http://www.nileseldredge.com/darwin_blogs_025.htm
Two interesting points:
* Darwin spent a week in the field with geologist Adam Sedgwick (Professor of Geology at Cambridge) training in field geology before the self-teaching episode with clinometer in the bedroom.
* "To the end of his life, Darwin regarded himself first and foremost as a geologist."]]> Kim Kastens 1253583120 http://serc.carleton.edu/earthandmind/posts/darwindipstrike.html#post3574 http://serc.carleton.edu/earthandmind/posts/darwindipstrike.html#post3583 Mary Reagan 1254510720 http://serc.carleton.edu/earthandmind/posts/darwindipstrike.html#post3583 http://serc.carleton.edu/earthandmind/posts/darwindipstrike.html#post3637
I downloaded your poster on strike and dip/water level task performance. Very interesting! Do you know if there's any research on whether interventions can help students who do poorly on the WLT to improve their abilities to visualize the horizontal?

Cognitive aspects are clearly at issue here, but I'd like to add that *language* is an unexpectedly large barrier, as well, to teaching three dimensional thinking in structural geology.

I had taught structural geology at Hamilton for quite a number of years before I tumbled to the fact that a surprising number of my students do not have accurate internalized definitions for the words horizontal, vertical, perpendicular, and parallel. Early in the semester, I always ask students on a homework assignment to write definitions of the four words, and, in a class of 20, only a couple will be really clear and spot on. Most are hazy about the distinctions, and a good 1/3 are disastrously wrong (from the point of view of learning structural geology). The most common misconception is that something that is horizontal is oriented east-west and that something vertical is oriented north-south. The same problem occurs with perpendicular and parallel, which many of my students think of as being absolute orientations (i.e., they'll say something like, "The line is perpendicular." - not perpendicular *to* something else, just "perpendicular").

So, it's difficult to teach strike and dip successfully if you don't realize that a significant portion of the class visualizes east-west when you say horizontal. Or that they visualize a vertical line when you say that the dip line is perpendicular to the strike line....

These are very firmly held mental definitions. I can ask students mid to late semester in a structural geology course, and some students will still spontaneously give the "horizontal = EW" definition. And, the more you ask them to talk in class or lab, the more likely you are to hear them say things that make it clear that their ideas of horizontal, vertical, perpendicular, and parallel are not the same as yours.

And we typically use the terms "inclined" and "inclination" when we're talking about dip, and, to a structural geologist, inclination is always measured in the down-dip direction. But most students visualize an incline as going *up*, not down, so when we talk about the angle of inclination, they're visualizing up not down.

On another thing - the tendency for students to put either the strike or dip line parallel to the edge of something (outcrop, clipboard, etc.) is a strong one. A couple of years ago, I got a bunch of cardboard circles for them to practice strike and dip on so that they wouldn't be distracted by the edges. ]]> Barb Tewksbury 1258981560 http://serc.carleton.edu/earthandmind/posts/darwindipstrike.html#post3637 http://serc.carleton.edu/earthandmind/posts/darwindipstrike.html#post3638
I have to admit that I played with my Freiberger compass (dip, dip direction) a bit before I went into the field when I switched to it from a Brunton, yet I don't feel that I have conceptual issues understanding strike and dip.]]> Scott Wilkerson 1258988940 http://serc.carleton.edu/earthandmind/posts/darwindipstrike.html#post3638 http://serc.carleton.edu/earthandmind/posts/darwindipstrike.html#post3647
Perhaps "struggled with" was an overly dramatic choice of words on my part. Certainly compared with students who can't figure out how to place the compass on the dipping surface (as you described), or who aren't clear on the meaning of horizontal (as Barb Tewksbury described), Darwin was on top of the concept and the skill. What Darwin's letter conveyed to me was that he found the process of measuring dip and strike to be far from non-trivial, something that needed to be consciously and purposefully practiced again and again with different surfaces inclined different ways.

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Hi Barb,

Thanks for your wide-ranging and interesting questions and observations.

With respect to whether there are interventions that can improve the ability of students who do poorly on the WLT task to visualize the horizontal, performance on the WLT itself is very resistant to improvement through instruction. As far as I know, no one has tested whether improvements in WLT performance translate into better understanding of horizontal in a real world 3-D context.

Lynn Liben and colleagues tried many interventions for the classical WLT (e.g. stating that the water will remain horizontal, having students manipulate real bottles of water), with only limited improvement. They eventually found a form of intervention that worked pretty well (rule was stated twice, then presented as a fill-in question, then answer to fill-in question was given, then asked again as an open ended question at the end). Liben, L. S., and Golbeck, S. L., 1984, Performance on Piagetian horizontality and verticality tasks: Sex-related differences in knowledge of relevant physical phenomena: Develpmental Psychology, v. 20, p. 595-606.

With respect to the idea that *language* is a problem, there is a really interesting but somewhat dense paper by Talmy, L., 1983, How language structures space, in H. L. Pick, J., and Acredolo, L. P., eds., Spatial orientation: Theory, research and application: New York, Plenum, p. 225-282. Basically, he says that the language we use informs and shapes how we think about space. Which means that you are right to be seriously concerned about your students' ability to understand spatially-demanding concepts if they are using and understanding spatial language differently than you do.

So after you give your students the homework question to define horizontal, vertical, perpendicular and parallel, and find that 1/3 of them are seriously wrong, what do you do next to try and get them all using the same language? Also, have you ever asked them to define "north," "south," "east," or "west"? If they define "horizontal" as east-west, I wonder if they also define east and west in some strange way?]]> Kim Kastens 1259932500 http://serc.carleton.edu/earthandmind/posts/darwindipstrike.html#post3647 http://serc.carleton.edu/earthandmind/posts/darwindipstrike.html#post3676
I do ask them to define east, west, north, and south, and the answers are commonly right, left, up, and down, or something like "north is perpendicular to the horizontal". So, language is a real issue.

My strategy is to talk about it in class and reinforce the correct language by specifically saying what is and isn't correct terminology when I use it; I also give them straw sentences with terminology, and we work through whether the terminology is correct or not; and I correct students in class (gently) when they use the wrong terms. The main thing is recognizing that many students aren't using the terms the same way we do. If an instructor is just lecturing to students, instead of having conversations, that might never emerge.]]> Barb Tewksbury 1264103460 http://serc.carleton.edu/earthandmind/posts/darwindipstrike.html#post3676